BMG Songs Inks Jenkins

[Adam]

From Billboard Bulletin (thanks to Brian Tomasini)

Stephan Jenkins has signed with BMG Songs in a worldwide publishing deal. The agreement does not include his work with his band Third Eye Blind.

Jenkins co-wrote four songs on Vanessa Carlton's sophomore album, "Harmonium" (A&M/Universal), including first single "White Houses."

BMG Songs says Jenkins is pursuing and producing projects in addition to his role as singer, guitarist, producer and songwriter for Third Eye Blind.

[3ebfan11]

From Billboard Bulletin (thanks to Brian Tomasini)

Stephan Jenkins has signed with BMG Songs in a worldwide publishing deal. The agreement does not include his work with his band Third Eye Blind.

Jenkins co-wrote four songs on Vanessa Carlton's sophomore album, "Harmonium" (A&M/Universal), including first single "White Houses."

BMG Songs says Jenkins is pursuing and producing projects in addition to his role as singer, guitarist, producer and songwriter for Third Eye Blind.
so what does this mean....(im not being sarcastic, i really just dont have a clue)

[Adam]

Heh, that's a good question and I'm not exactly sure either. I'm guessing that it means BMG will have Stephan writing/producing for their artists and will be publishing his work.

Just not sure how Stephan can write for other people if he can't write for his own band. It seems rather strange. Maybe James or someone could give us some reason behind all of this?

[Mitch]

i think that this means one of two things:

1. a new 3eb lp or ep will not be out for a very long time

2. the new 3eb lp or ep is done and will be out shortly

or, actually, a third item

3. the new 3eb lp or ep is done but has been shelved for now


le sigh

[Adam]

It's definitely not 3 and from what I'm lead to believe I'm not sure it's 2 either.

[tfg]

Man that's cool I think in a way but also sucks as well. I wish I had the knack for songwriting and lyrics that he does to be able to write for my band as well as others. Incredible.

[David Charles]

Well it seems Stephan is being less and less involved in 3eb dontcha think? Is he craving popularity again or what? I would be interested in hearing a Stephan solo album but not at the expense of a 3eb album.

[Intoxicated Ricochet]

Didn't he sign a deal with some company way back in 96 that was reportedly the largest ever for someone still unsigned? I don't see how this is any different.

[7headedmanwhore]

classic SJ maneuver. is he for real on this one? shouldn't he be more concerned with his band than he is himself? i mean come on, the music business is about what have you done for me lately. Nothing. It seems like his priorities are mixed-up. 3eb needs a comeback, like NOW dammit. Get the album done and out already.

[cokehead1138]

Just not sure how Stephan can write for other people if he can't write for his own band. It seems rather strange. Maybe James or someone could give us some reason behind all of this?

I think Stephan Jenkins, in regards with 3eb, wants the songs to be personnal and/or actually come from somewhere real. Whereas, as a hired writer, and being as gifted as he is, it is much easier to write a song if he is told, "We need a song about this or that, and with this or that feel."

[Proactive&Soul]

Well it seems Stephan is being less and less involved in 3eb dontcha think? Is he craving popularity again or what? I would be interested in hearing a Stephan solo album but not at the expense of a 3eb album.

I completely agree. Forgive me for being set in my ways, but I'm much rather have a 3eb album in my nible little fingers than a solo album. No doubt Stephen can carry an album on his own, cause the boy can sing, but it takes away from the music (for me) when it's not 3eb material.

[crimson~melody]

I think this is :thdown: . Anything that's going to prove as a major is distraction is. Can't he just freakin focus on 3eb? Because I know that he's sure as fuck not thinking of the band when he signs some deal with someone else.
He needs to just be completely straight with us. How do you really feel about your fucking band at this point, Stephan? We'd all REALLY like to know :rolleyes:

[Maybe]

I think Stephan Jenkins, in regards with 3eb, wants the songs to be personnal and/or actually come from somewhere real. Whereas, as a hired writer, and being as gifted as he is, it is much easier to write a song if he is told, "We need a song about this or that, and with this or that feel."I was thinking something along those lines.

[Intoxicated Ricochet]

Well, I'd be content if he'd at least say "I'm not really into 3eb that much right now" instead of spewing bullshit about how he's totally committed.

[Yusuf]

Although I don't understand the full implications of this, it still sounds frustrating and irritating. If SJ wants to add more things to his plate, that's fine, but I'd really like him to either a) finish his 3eb stuff or b) quit 3eb and give us all some closure.

[semaj]

Heh, that's a good question and I'm not exactly sure either. I'm guessing that it means BMG will have Stephan writing/producing for their artists and will be publishing his work.

Just not sure how Stephan can write for other people if he can't write for his own band. It seems rather strange. Maybe James or someone could give us some reason behind all of this?

i can understand why this sj/bmg deal doesnt look so fresh on the surface, but in theory it shouldnt get in the way of him working on 3eb or be a huge distraction for him (fingers crossed)...the deal has been in the works ever since he started working/co-writing with vanessa so it made sense in a lot of ways...the hope is is that it will continue to encourage him to be the prolific song-writer that we all know and love and it will also allow for those songs of stephan's that dont quite fit into the 3eb soundscape to still be put to good use...and of course it keeps his name out there in the co-writing/song-doctoring/producing world (and perhaps will make him some extra cash money too)...having said all that im still with the rest of you in that i'd rather see him be completely immersed in 3eb world and not come up for air until a double album (at least) is finito...

[The Destroyer]

i can understand why this sj/bmg deal doesnt look so fresh on the surface, but in theory it shouldnt get in the way of him working on 3eb or be a huge distraction for him (fingers crossed)...the deal has been in the works ever since he started working/co-writing with vanessa so it made sense in a lot of ways...the hope is is that it will continue to encourage him to be the prolific song-writer that we all know and love and it will also allow for those songs of stephan's that dont quite fit into the 3eb soundscape to still be put to good use...and of course it keeps his name out there in the co-writing/song-doctoring/producing world (and perhaps will make him some extra cash money too)...

I think this is great. although he hasn't been as nice to us as the other bandmembers, he is a great osngwriter and deserves his due. i don'y know any songwriters like him.

[tracluvs3eb]

Wow. I really hope he stays focused on 3EB. He is such a great songwriter, and I'm sure artists will love his work. But focus Stephan, focus.

[3SeJbfan]

so James, do you have any clue as to where the 4th album stands? where SJ stands on lyrics and stuff?

[Adam]

The only nagging thing I've ever had with this whole SJ as a producer/songwriter NOT a performer is that it's obvious to anyone Stephan loves the limelight, the attention. How's he gonna be when someone else is getting the attention for his work? I know that may seem a little harsh and possibly unfounded but I think it's worth thinking about.

[The Flicker Fade]

Motherfucker.

It's not like we can't all see the writing on the wall, but I was hoping to see a fourth album before it happened.

The man is forty years old, he's just looking at his future in the music industry. He's not going to want to be the frontman of a band for too much longer, or deal with touring, and this deal allows him to get his music out there without him personally having to do it. Plus he gets to tinker with producing, which he is apparently fascinated by at the moment.

My question is, how does the rest of the band feel about this? How many little such slights can you take and still pretend everything is okay, that you are still valued and the promises that were made to you are still going to pan out?

EDIT: Adam, I think he'll find ways to take credit. No, scratch that, I'm sure of it. ;)

[Brian]

How many little such slights can you take and still pretend everything is okay,
I think some of you guys are the only ones pretending everything's ok.

Arion's been pretty straightforward about it all.

I can't say I'm surprised.

But James, double album? Come on!

Don't fuck with us.

;)

[moyboy]

But James, double album? Come on!

Don't fuck with us.

;)


I'm sure that you realize this, but NO double album. James just meant that he would like SJ to have more than enough 3EB material locked and loaded before moving on to something else... Just to be clear to anyone not grasping that.

[semaj]

The only nagging thing I've ever had with this whole SJ as a producer/songwriter NOT a performer is that it's obvious to anyone Stephan loves the limelight, the attention. How's he gonna be when someone else is getting the attention for his work? I know that may seem a little harsh and possibly unfounded but I think it's worth thinking about.

believe you me, we all have that same wonder Ad-rock! he's never been the most, uhh, tactful person in the past when it comes to sharing the spotlight, but perhaps he'd handle things differently now....who knows...we'll just wait and see i guess...

[3ebfan11]

if theres not going to be a 4th album, there will still be a final tour, right (never been to a non-local guitarstore/garage concert, let alone a 3EB concert) :confused: :confused:

[semaj]

I think some of you guys are the only ones pretending everything's ok.

Arion's been pretty straightforward about it all.

I can't say I'm surprised.

But James, double album? Come on!

Don't fuck with us.

;)

did i say double album? shit, i meant to say TRIPLE album....my bad.

[The Flicker Fade]

I think some of you guys are the only ones pretending everything's ok.

Arion's been pretty straightforward about it all.

I can't say I'm surprised.

Well, when he comes here, everything's okay. The public face he and the rest of the band puts on is that everything's okay. It's only from you and a few others that we hear that everything really isn't okay.

Which I can't say I blame him for, but it is a charade, and I was merely observing that it must get tiresome after a while, especially when SJ goes and does things like this to make it all the more difficult. It practically amounts to a slap in the face, don't you think?


For example, if we all started to get really upset about this, and there was some kind of "uproar," then I wouldn't be surprised if Arion came here and addressed it, as past examples support (EP tracks, etc.). If he did that, I'm sure he would reassure us and tell us "everything's okay, the album's coming along, etc."- but that might not necessarily be how he feels about the situation. And SJ putting him in that position, in my opinion, is bullshit.

[Kaile]

I'm still not overly worried...

I mean most bands take 2-3 years to release an album and we are only just about entering close to the 2nd year since OOTV so.....

[tonyrox]

For example, if we all started to get really upset about this, and there was some kind of "uproar," then I wouldn't be surprised if Arion came here and addressed it, as past examples support (EP tracks, etc.). If he did that, I'm sure he would reassure us and tell us "everything's okay, the album's coming along, etc."- but that might not necessarily be how he feels about the situation. And SJ putting him in that position, in my opinion, is bullshit.

That's a swell idea...

Fuck this bullshit, I'm so upset. :bigcry:

The only thing that could possibly restore my faith in 3eb and ease this pain would be some type of EP track, probably Carnival Barker would ease the most pain.

[3SeJbfan]

That's a swell idea...

Fuck this bullshit, I'm so upset. :bigcry:

The only thing that could possibly restore my faith in 3eb and ease this pain would be some type of EP track, probably Carnival Barker would ease the most pain.

yea... yea. :bigcry: I'm SO sad.

[jackieo with the top down]

did i say double album? shit, i meant to say TRIPLE album....my bad.

C'mon now, thats just cruel!! ;)

[tonyrox]

In all seriousness, I really don't see why anyone in the cutthroat record business would want SJ writing or producing for them. While I've always been impressed with his talents, it seems like everything he does lately sells like shit.

[The Flicker Fade]

Guys, I think my soul is on fire. I cried to try and put it out but I ended up weeping blood. My only hope now is the fire retardent properties of... uh, Carnival Barker or Persephone. :bigcry:

:wet: :wet:

[mightybella]

The man is forty years old, he's just looking at his future in the music industry. He's not going to want to be the frontman of a band for too much longer, or deal with touring, and this deal allows him to get his music out there without him personally having to do it. Plus he gets to tinker with producing, which he is apparently fascinated by at the moment.


Absolutely.

But getting back to the album (as a lot of us have expressed), I still can't help but feel a bit jerked around.

Nevertheless, that's still quite an achievement for a songwriter.

[NCdude2k3]

I think most of you are overeacting. Chill..Jesus.

[gchild320]

I'm happy for him.

In fact, I can't wait to hear Avril singing Break Me.









I know that's not possible....:)

[blisstheabyss]

in regards to this news, i think everyone is seriously overreacting. he just signed a deal to allow him to make money when he writes/co-writes songs for other people. it should be no surprise to anyone here that he's been dabbling in that. he wrote several songs on vanessas album and there was talk of them selling a song to santana. if stephan wrote a song for someone else, third eye blind (as a band and as a corporation) should not see any money from that. this is merely a way for stephan to find work outside of third eye blind. and as that goes, how many times do you all have to hear that third eye blind probably won't be in existance in five years? i know nobody here knows me or believes me, but surely you believe brian? he eludes to this stuff all the time. he knows what he's talking about.

i dont think arion has come in here and said "everything is okay". he's said that the album is in the works and that it is coming along. that is true. it doesn't mean that he's in love with stephan. honestly, whether they get along or not is nobody's business. they're making a record; what more can we ask for?

in short, this publishing deal has nothing to do with third eye blind and it shouldn't be a distraction from third eye blind any more than buying a car would be. nobody should question or wonder whether a 4th album will come out based on this news.

[Dirk]

I'm still not overly worried...

I mean most bands take 2-3 years to release an album and we are only just about entering close to the 2nd year since OOTV so.....


Well a lot of bands that take that kind of time because they spend those years touring and doing publicity and collecting awards and platinum records in glass cases. Whereas OOTV collected dust.

Stephan doesn't need more money. I'll bet he's more than comfortable on SCL royoalties alone. I'm glad he's respected enough to sign a deal like this, but yeah, I don't see this interfering with the album very much - unless there's a huge blowup and he says "fuck this, I have a contract, I'm outta here." Although I guess he does have that option now. Sorry for the ambivalence of this post.

[David Charles]

I'm still not overly worried...

I mean most bands take 2-3 years to release an album and we are only just about entering close to the 2nd year since OOTV so.....

True. And then there's people that release 2 or 3 albums in a year.

[Brian]

in regards to this news, i think everyone is seriously overreacting. he just signed a deal to allow him to make money when he writes/co-writes songs for other people. it should be no surprise to anyone here that he's been dabbling in that. he wrote several songs on vanessas album and there was talk of them selling a song to santana. if stephan wrote a song for someone else, third eye blind (as a band and as a corporation) should not see any money from that. this is merely a way for stephan to find work outside of third eye blind. and as that goes, how many times do you all have to hear that third eye blind probably won't be in existance in five years? i know nobody here knows me or believes me, but surely you believe brian? he eludes to this stuff all the time. he knows what he's talking about.

i dont think arion has come in here and said "everything is okay". he's said that the album is in the works and that it is coming along. that is true. it doesn't mean that he's in love with stephan. honestly, whether they get along or not is nobody's business. they're making a record; what more can we ask for?

in short, this publishing deal has nothing to do with third eye blind and it shouldn't be a distraction from third eye blind any more than buying a car would be. nobody should question or wonder whether a 4th album will come out based on this news.



How many times do I have to tell you folks to listen to this man?

[guido]

Damn!!! this sucks!!!! Stephan spends 3 years writing song for his albums, how the hell is going to write song to albums which are going to be released on a few months!!!???, the only way he got is write shit!!!, those songs are going to suck thought...he's way fucked up!!! Make sure Arion knows that now the band is not going to last for long and he's making some proyects for his own, the same with Brad and Tony... :'(

[Kaile]

True. And then there's people that release 2 or 3 albums in a year.

And 3eb aren't one of them! :yes:

Heh yeah i know what everyone is saying that SJ needs to get his butt into gear, but i still was never expecting an album before say.......end of 05?

So i won't get discontent till after that

And besides triple albums take time

[sabrehater]

True. And then there's people that release 2 or 3 albums in a year.

*cough*ryanadams*cough* ;)

[elle]

The man is forty years old, he's just looking at his future in the music industry. He's not going to want to be the frontman of a band for too much longer, or deal with touring, and this deal allows him to get his music out there without him personally having to do it. Plus he gets to tinker with producing, which he is apparently fascinated by at the moment.
My sentiments exactly. This is exactly what I was going to say when I read the news.

I'm sure Stephan is just watching is aging back. ;)

[The Flicker Fade]

Well it's good to know that at least one in five posts was well-received today. Maybe I should let the 102 fever die down before I argue that CGA as a single would be the band selling out? ;)

Edit: For example, this isn't even the right thread. :lol:

Edit #2: Speaking of wrong threads, my balls are as big as coconuts. Yeah. There they are a-standing in a row. :rock:

[PUTthePASTaway]

Like others have already said, I don't think this really affects how I feel. I think something like this had to be expected. I don't think I ever expected another album after this 4th one comes out. So as long as work is being done on this album right now (which we have heard is the case), I really have no complaints. Let's say this next album comes out at the end of this year (is that what we are expecting? what do you guys think as a general time frame?), then another 2-3 years would mean a 5th album in 2008, which I just don't see happening. Of course I would be happy if we did get a 5th album at some point, but I certainly don't expect one.

[a sort of blinded]

A few observations. I don't blame the guy for taking that deal. I'm sure it covers his ass for life after 3EB. However, look at it this way: the 4th album will happen, we've been assured as much. Don't worry about 5 years or 5th album, we all know that the 4th album will be coming. The positive from this? Maybe that "fertile period" he spoke of during OOTV's release will be spurred from this? Maybe it will help to eliminate any writer's block? And at the very least, we know that regardless of the fate of 3eb, we are gonna have SJ lyrics to look at and think about for a while now...and his lyrical abilities seem to be a consensus for the favorite part of the 3eb formula, aside from how good it was of Arion to bring EP tracks. Just my thoughts, take the good of it for now.

[blisstheabyss]

there were a few comments that annoyed me and i'm just now getting around to responding:


classic SJ maneuver. is he for real on this one? shouldn't he be more concerned with his band than he is himself?

actually, i think stephan should most definitely be more concerned with himself than the band. he has to make sure that he can continue to work and make money beyond third eye blind. i think this is a very selfish comment.


Stephan doesn't need more money. I'll bet he's more than comfortable on SCL royoalties alone.

what do you know about stephan's finances (not that it's any of your business)? and who are you to say when he should be satisfied and stop trying to make more money? again, this is selfish. i'm not stephan's biggest fan, but i certainly don't resent him for trying to succeed beyond third eye bind's numbered days.

[Intoxicated Ricochet]

It's a shame San Francisco's music scene isn't as thriving as it used to be. It seems a lot of the hometown kind of.. musical fertility that drove SJ in many ways is no longer there. EDIT: But yes, I agree that Stephan does need to look at making money for himself beyond 3eb. I'm not saying he's doing it in the most ideal way and I want new 3eb music, but think about what you'd be doing if you were in his position.

I don't think this deal is really going to equate to a reentry into the spotlight for him. Vanessa Carlton is a well-known, fairly mainstream artist and her album flopped in comparison with her other contemporaries (not saying that means SJ's work on it was bad, but it's the truth).

[JeffWichman]

in short, this publishing deal has nothing to do with third eye blind and it shouldn't be a distraction from third eye blind any more than buying a car would be. nobody should question or wonder whether a 4th album will come out based on this news.



Sorry but I think that's a little naive. If you take a look at this dialogue in other cases (as far as members of other bands doing the same) it's pretty clear what generally happens. Everyone knows Stephan Jenkins is self-centered... The way I see it, Third Eye Blind isn't rolling in the dough anymore and he's closing up shop and starting another company- after all, Third Eye Blind Inc. is 100% Stephan Jenkins' The shitty part is that the rest of the band has no really say in the business affairs, as SJ is the sole owner- and he can tell them all to go to hell if they pressure him too much, so I'm sure that aspect of it all is quite fragile. I suppose there's room for a last tour or independantly-released EP (to follow the same analogy, a "clearance sale") but I think this pretty much sucks for the rest of the band. This all brings familiar feelings crashing back to me from 2000. Dicking bandmates over for your own agenda and personal gain.

[elle]

I think this pretty much sucks for the rest of the band.
I dunno, I think the other band members aren't just sitting around twiddling their thumbs when they aren't in the studio... We fully know that the other band members have their own things going on as well.

I'm just hoping we can see one more album and one more tour. That's all I hope for. No more, no less.

[PUTthePASTaway]

This all brings familiar feelings crashing back to me from 2000. Dicking bandmates over for your own agenda and personal gain.

Good point, because deciding to write and produce music for somebody else in order to make money is the same as kicking somebody out of a band.

[DangerDanger]

This all brings familiar feelings crashing back to me from 2000. Dicking bandmates over for your own agenda and personal gain.

only this time around, will they shit out an album as spiritually perfect as Blue?

That, my friend, is the right question.


































I, Robot. yes. :duh:

[PUTthePASTaway]

Like Liana mentioned, how is Stephan doing this any different than Tony and his Tight-E-Whitey project? Tony didn't let that interfere with making 3eb music, and as far as we know, Stephan is working on the next 3eb album right now. So what's the problem?

[The Destroyer]

Sorry but I think that's a little naive. If you take a look at this dialogue in other cases (as far as members of other bands doing the same) it's pretty clear what generally happens. Everyone knows Stephan Jenkins is self-centered... The way I see it, Third Eye Blind isn't rolling in the dough anymore and he's closing up shop and starting another company- after all, Third Eye Blind Inc. is 100% Stephan Jenkins' The shitty part is that the rest of the band has no really say in the business affairs, as SJ is the sole owner- and he can tell them all to go to hell if they pressure him too much, so I'm sure that aspect of it all is quite fragile. I suppose there's room for a last tour or independantly-released EP (to follow the same analogy, a "clearance sale") but I think this pretty much sucks for the rest of the band. This all brings familiar feelings crashing back to me from 2000. Dicking bandmates over for your own agenda and personal gain.

dude, you sound real bitter about kevin...still :confused:

Tony is the only cat I think may have some money issues...

[Brian]

Maybe that "fertile period" he spoke of during OOTV's release will be spurred from this? Maybe it will help to eliminate any writer's block?
The problem is the man has no motivation.

He's rich.

There's nothing to drive him anymore.

It's crystal clear.

Yes, that hasn't been the case with a lot of big frontmen/songwriters, but it pretty much is right here.

[DangerDanger]

The problem is the man has no motivation.

He's rich.

There's nothing to drive him anymore.

It's crystal clear.

Yes, that hasn't been the case with a lot of big frontmen/songwriters, but it pretty much is right here.

i think Stephan has probably always been motivated by and for others. now that he has arrived and claimed his stake, he's long since tired of measuring dicks. sure,, there's still that part of him that wants to write grandiose anthemic pop rock, the kind that people want to buy, but i think that window is closing quickly.

[Dirk]

what do you know about stephan's finances (not that it's any of your business)? and who are you to say when he should be satisfied and stop trying to make more money? again, this is selfish. i'm not stephan's biggest fan, but i certainly don't resent him for trying to succeed beyond third eye bind's numbered days.

I was merely responding to the notion that it's good that he's got this contract so he can get more money, and that I would be extrememly surprised if he were hurting for cash.

Like congratulating the richest guy in town for getting a christmas bonus, it's kind of strange. I don't resent him.

[Brian]

ithere's still that part of him that wants to write grandiose anthemic pop rock
For sure. It's there.

The problem is he doesn't want it nearly bad enough.

[JeffWichman]

dude, you sound real bitter about kevin...still :confused:

Tony is the only cat I think may have some money issues...

Hey I'm seriously not tryin' to bring that up- if that was the issue here I would be saying "fuck yes! told you bitches" pointing my finger and laughing, but I was honestly hoping to hear another album from 3eb and I honestly think it sucks for Arion, TF, and Brad. Sure they can do side-projects, but chances are they won't really amount to anything, seeing as their names aren't really worth a whole hell of a lot at this point- Stephan's really the only one who can play that card.

[Brian]

I honestly think it sucks for Arion, TF, and Brad. Sure they can do side-projects, but chances are they won't really amount to anything, seeing as their names aren't really worth a whole hell of a lot at this point
Arion, T, Brad, plus a new singer would be a band I'd follow...

[justin2041]

Arion, T, Brad, plus a new singer would be a band I'd follow...

sure me too, unless they picked up Scott Stapp

:::the meaning of this post, for the idiot who didn't understand and gave me negative feedback, I would follow 3eb if they had a different singer, except I wouldn't follow them if they picked up Scott Stapp, its not that I want them to get Scott Stapp! I hated Creed! grrrr! :angry: :::

[The Destroyer]

Hey I'm seriously not tryin' to bring that up- if that was the issue here I would be saying "fuck yes! told you bitches" pointing my finger and laughing, but I was honestly hoping to hear another album from 3eb and I honestly think it sucks for Arion, TF, and Brad. Sure they can do side-projects, but chances are they won't really amount to anything, seeing as their names aren't really worth a whole hell of a lot at this point- Stephan's really the only one who can play that card.

My bad...I don't even think SJ's name is worth much. I do think the AS, TF, and Bh could kick a mad ass instrumental-prog rock album on their own. The thing is though, it will never be successful in a commercial sense...hell 3eb probably won't either. SJ is old and tired now, not 35 and angry. It just doesn't sell. Oh well...good night my internet bitches. :sleep:

[cokehead1138]

The problem is the man has no motivation.



I don't know, maybe the recent break up will motivate him. I hear it did last time.

[Joe]

I don't know, maybe the recent break up will motivate him. I hear it did last time.

Huh? Who broke up and where have I been ?!?!?!

[crimson~melody]

I don't know, maybe the recent break up will motivate him. I hear it did last time.
Yeah I'm getting the feeling it's inevitable.

[in_the_background]

I'm just hoping we can see one more album and one more tour. That's all I hope for. No more, no less.


me too...I've always expected him to go solo but I thought it should be after one more album and then he could go on his own.

[blisstheabyss]

The way I see it, Third Eye Blind isn't rolling in the dough anymore and he's closing up shop and starting another company

that's definitely not it. the rest of the band are totally fed up with stephan's laziness and inability to do his job within third eye blind. the rest of the band are the one's initiating the inevitable breakup. stephan is reacting as anyone would; making sure he can continue to work after the rest of the band break up third eye blind. it's not like arion, brad and tony are left in the dark here. moreover, they all have their side projects. arion has stated that he wants his next project to be a low key endeavor on a small independent label (ie - k records, secretly canadian, etc... a label on that level). i think that the band wouldn't have a problem with the number of records they're currently selling, if they enjoyed each other (cough*stephans*cough) company, put out lots of records and loved touring together. it's really not about the success, or lack thereof, of third eye blind. that has very little to do with any of this.

[kfowler1]

Whatever this all means, it totally sucks that we are talking about the impending break-up of Third Eye Blind.

How bout some words that might be exchanged between band members now:

"Will this song live on long after we do? It might."

"And there are things I would like to do, that you don't believe in. I would like to build something, but you'll never see it happen."

"There's a price to pay for a place safe to hide for just one time. It seemed that things could have been different."

"Thanks a lot."

"Can we try and take the high road? Remember, we were friends."

"The four right chords can make me cry."

"The devil smiles as he pulls the wings off at the one who wrote and forgot the song."

"Chop another line like a coda with a curse."

"Turn the music up louder. Spit out the taste of gun powder. We'll have a bon fire. Burn it all down; let's take it higher."

[3SeJbfan]

this is all making me sad. :( but like Liana, one more album, one more tour.

[3EBRulez]

I honestly don't think this is a bad thing at all. Making an album costs ALOT of money, and that money comes out of your pocket when you're not signed to a label, and I see this as a perfect way for him to get the money it requires to make an album.

Take Butch Walker for example, he did this exact thing in order to raise money from which to record his own album and that led to him getting signed again to a massive deal that gave him complete control of his own miniature record label. I think if a similar thing could happen to 3EB it'd put the band into a very good place for the future.

[JayDogg3eB83]

Am I the only one who is truly happy for SJ here? I mean, come on... If I was 40 years old and in his situation, I would definitely ink a deal with BMG. However, I do hope that he plays the same part as Tony during the Tight E days, and doesn't let it interfere with his 3eb work. Ultimately, I think its great that SJ's music days can live further, with our without 3eb. Like everyone else tho, I hope to see #4 and its tour sooner than later. :thup:

[David Charles]

Am I the only one who is truly happy for SJ here? I mean, come on... If I was 40 years old and in his situation, I would definitely ink a deal with BMG. However, I do hope that he plays the same part as Tony during the Tight E days, and doesn't let it interfere with his 3eb work. Ultimately, I think its great that SJ's music days can live further, with our without 3eb. Like everyone else tho, I hope to see #4 and its tour sooner than later. :thup:

I think we're all happy for him in some ways but knowing how unmotivated he is towards 3eb and how hard Arion,Tony and Brad have been working (or so i'm thinking) on this new album it tends to annoy some of us. If you just look at it in a way of I like Stephan's music, yay i'm happy for him! thats fine. But if you look at it as a fan who was stuck here waiting for OOTV forever and has no idea if the 4th album will be the same you get a different perspective.

Plus i'm not all that keen on good songwriters giving their music to crappy artists who can't write it themselves. :thdown:

[The Flicker Fade]

I honestly don't think this is a bad thing at all. Making an album costs ALOT of money, and that money comes out of your pocket when you're not signed to a label, and I see this as a perfect way for him to get the money it requires to make an album.

When you own your own studio, it doesn't cost nearly as much.

Sometimes I think the studio is the only thing keeping the band together.

[Maybe]

Sometimes I think the studio is the only thing keeping the band together.yeah

[tonyrox]

Like Liana mentioned, how is Stephan doing this any different than Tony and his Tight-E-Whitey project? Tony didn't let that interfere with making 3eb music, and as far as we know, Stephan is working on the next 3eb album right now. So what's the problem?

While I'm kind of indifferent on the whole Jenkins signing thing, I'll tell you exactly how it's different.

Tony did the Tight E Whitey side project as a direct effect of the fact that there was nothing he could do with 3eb because SJ wasn't doing anything. He said something to the effect of "I love making music with 3eb, but there's so much down time waiting on SJ that I needed something else to express myself".

SJ can't use that excuse, because he is in fact the problem. SJ can't go on to work on some side project using the same reasoning. "Well, I'd like to work on 3eb stuff, but I just have to wait around on those unproductive bastards - Brad, Tony, and Arion."

It doesn't work both ways.

[crimson~melody]

"Well, I'd like to work on 3eb stuff, but I just have to wait around on those unproductive bastards - Brad, Tony, and Arion."
:wet:

[Iceman]

All I want is the new album to come out. SJ can go have sex with a horse for all I care, I just want a new album at some point. Some of you seem to think that a 4th album is inevitable just because they are supposedly working on it. Hell, even if they get all the tracks laid down, it doesn't mean they will release it, I don't trust what anyone says from the band, especially not SJ.

You all can get down on me and others for having negative attitudes, but how are we supposed to be positive considering all that's happened in the past???

Sorry to sound like a real bitch, I'm not really as angry as I probably sound, but I just don't even care about stupid updates regarding the album that are probably just untrue anyway.

All I want is a freakin 4th album

That is all

And right now, I am very skeptical about getting one. It's true that this whole deal with BMG may have no bearing at all on getting the new album done, but at the same time, I don't see how it helps...and that's all I really care about...

[PUTthePASTaway]

While I'm kind of indifferent on the whole Jenkins signing thing, I'll tell you exactly how it's different.

Tony did the Tight E Whitey side project as a direct effect of the fact that there was nothing he could do with 3eb because SJ wasn't doing anything. He said something to the effect of "I love making music with 3eb, but there's so much down time waiting on SJ that I needed something else to express myself".

SJ can't use that excuse, because he is in fact the problem. SJ can't go on to work on some side project using the same reasoning. "Well, I'd like to work on 3eb stuff, but I just have to wait around on those unproductive bastards - Brad, Tony, and Arion."

It doesn't work both ways.

Yeah, but right now Stephan is doing work on the 4th album instead of his side work. Maybe after this album is released and they tour, then he will do his own thing, which would be "down time" for 3eb. My point is that we can't complain until he actually is writing other peoples songs instead doing work that needs to be completed in 3eb. And Vanessa's album doesn't count because he hadn't signed to this deal yet and was helping his girlfriend.

[deedee4eva]

heh heh oooo. i know i should be writing cooler posts and stuff but i jes couldnt resist.

that blurb is sort of misleading. dont worry, you guys have totally misunderstood this piece of press, and it 100% MOST DEFINITELY HAS NO EFFECT on the band.

ill try to explain. "signing to a publishing company", "getting a publishing deal" is something most published songwriters (sometimes even non-published) do at some point. stevo has had a couple, i have one, tony has one... blah blah blah. his old one ran out so he recently signed a new one. it is usually quite a minor incident in the course of a "pro" musicians career. this press release must have come from an industry trade mag or sumthin. cos it is truly a non event.
for example, i knew a guy who had no records out, only played live a few times, nothing but a cd of demos to his name. this guy also had a deal with BMG.

whenever a company signs you, part of the deal is always a promise to network and find you other gigs that you might like; producing other bands, co-writing with bon jovi, anything you so desire.

meaning all these "outside projects/solo-acoustic w/ the london philharmonic/ jazz oddysey" albums you are worrying/rejoicing about have been pursued continuously for years. NOTHINGS IS NEW OR DIFFERENT. companys looked for outside gigs all through the recordings of first two records. when hes taken other projects - you've heard about them. im sure in the near future each of us will rock other houses. but for now were all focused on this here record. the point is, the option to "slut around" has always been there. we will whore ourselves at will.

the part about the 3eb music is wrong too but im getting bored already. i will say one more thing though...
for those who care; time to come to grips with the cold hard fact that there has NEVER EVER IN A MILLION BILLION INFINITY YEARS been any funny business or lies or trickery or evil scheming and plotting and planning involving bank accounts, corporations, etc.
Sorry man, i know its a bummer losing that key piece of juicy drama from the saga of our band, but try to let it go. its such a drag bringing it up, so i shant again.

i hope ive cleared that up. catastrophe averted. that being said we still dont have a record. but i must go.

latex, a



.

[Brian]

Yeah, I didn't think this particular bit of news was really significant.

I think for some folks it just reminded them of others issues they'd rather not think about.

[The Flicker Fade]

Well I for one feel better regardless. :rock:


And hey, what would this place be if we didn't freak out once every other month? Normal? ;)

[blisstheabyss]

told ya so.

[crimson~melody]

Arion I love you. You crack me up. Thanks for clearing that shit up, though.
Brian's right, it just reminded people of certain other stuff.

[RockTheBackyard]

It's funny that I get freaked out about this stuff and then Arion comes to set everything straight and gives me hope again. What an amazing dude. You rock.

[3SeJbfan]

thanks Arion. :rock:

[tracluvs3eb]

Arion to the rescue, again. Thanks for clearing things up. As always, you :rock: .

[FastMotion]

As long as the 4th record is on track, which it is, then life is beautiful.

I'm pathetic.

[kfowler1]

Thanks for being ridiculously cool, Arion.
You have made me able to get out of my room and party tonight.
I shoulda known, though: Life is not to fear; life is to enjoy.

[MartyHolland]

I'm pathetic.

You don't need to tell me twice.



I don't know, maybe the recent break up will motivate him. I hear it did last time.

Vanessa and SJ going through a bit of love on the rocks with no ice?

Thanks to Arion for clearing stuff up. I reckon with that determination alone we'll get an album this year.

Possibly with an android Stephan...

[crimson~melody]

Well apparently during a recent interview she said that their relationship was "still okay I guess" but neither of them have ever been big on relationships being really public so that answer might not necessarily mean something's wrong.
But if it means VC's going to haul SJ to London to record her 3rd album then maybe a breakup's for the best. :idea:

[The Destroyer]

heh heh oooo.


that being said we still dont have a record. but i must go.

latex, a


First of all...HOLY SHIT.

What does "we don't have a record" mean...?



I think for some folks it just reminded them of others issues they'd rather not think about.

Its like actual trauma for some people here...

non-3eb fan: "what's wrong?"

3eb fan: "nothing really, I just had some news that reminded me of a bad split"

non-3eb fan: "are you ok?"

3eb fan" "i don't know, there is still so much pain...I just miss him and our glory days together circa 1998"

[Brian]

First of all...HOLY SHIT.

What does "we don't have a record" mean...?
That a fourth album is not near to be being finished....with things like lyrics and tracked final vocals, and all that good stuff.

[tonyrox]

But if it means VC's going to haul SJ to London to record her 3rd album then maybe a breakup's for the best. :idea:

But SJ doesn't want to go to London. :no:

[elle]

Sometimes it makes me sad when Arion has to come here to put out fires. :( But I'm always glad when he takes the time to do it. :) I hope he knows that the fans only get all rilled up because it's out of love.

I suppose the lesson we have all learned is: When you assume....

Okay, I'm sure you know the rest of that. ;)

[crimson~melody]

But SJ doesn't want to go to London. :no:
Exactly :D

[cokehead1138]

whenever a company signs you, part of the deal is always a promise to network and find you other gigs that you might like; producing other bands, co-writing with bon jovi, anything you so desire.

Well there ya have it folks. The 4th album will be FUCKING songs with FUCKING Bon Jovi.:angry:

[blisstheabyss]

this will probably make people mad and get me more negative rep points, but i think many of you act like big babies. everytime you hear some third eye blind news that isn't related to the 4th album, you start crying. then arion has to come in and calm you all down.

when most of my favorite bands aren't on tour, i just assume they're making a new album and i don't hear anything about it until a release date is announced. this is the norm, yet when we have a couple of months with no news, everyone here gets so uptight. relax! they're working on the album - everyone who has some insight into whats going on (james, brian, moyboy, myself) keeps telling you all that, yet you ignore it. i don't get it.

we should consider ourselves lucky that the band (arion, in particular) cares about us enough to come on here at all. can't we just allow them to work on the album and be patient?

[crimson~melody]

It is possible for people's patience to run out... :rolleyes:

[elle]

(james, brian, moyboy, myself)
Um, you kinda sorta left out a really important person in this list. So much more important than yourself.

[chago04]

Um, you kinda sorta left out a really important person in this list. So much more important than yourself.
Liana, I love you. :lol:

[Adam]

Um, you kinda sorta left out a really important person in this list. So much more important than yourself.I may be being a complete egotist but if you mean me then that's very nice but I don't really post anything. Any news I post is fed to me and I don't discuss the band in the "cloak and dagger" way of years gone by. I don't think I even take part in many of the 3eb related discussions here, don't really provide anything in the way of new or gained information. In fact, other than paying any outstanding bills I think I'm pretty much obsolete ;)

[elle]

I may be being a complete egotist but if you mean me then that's very nice but I don't really post anything. Any news I post is fed to me and I don't discuss the band in the "cloak and dagger" way of years gone by. I don't think I even take part in many of the 3eb related discussions here, don't really provide anything in the way of new or gained information. In fact, other than paying any outstanding bills I think I'm pretty much obsolete ;)
Ugh, fine, I tried to show you are an important person to this process. I mean, there is no TVCY without Adam. Paying bills is VERY important. ;)

[Maybe]

Adam, you're the reason this all goes down. Like Liana said, no Adam = no TVCY. You're still appreciated bro :thup: And hey, you're still humble too!

[Adam]

Noooooooo, wasn't looking for those comments, was just sayin'.

[Maybe]

I know, and I didn't mean to give the generic "don't be humble" reply... but I did mean it. :)

[blisstheabyss]

It is possible for people's patience to run out... :rolleyes:

then why are you still here? everyone here obviously still has some patience left. there is absolutely nothing we can do to speed up the next album. hell, there is nothing arion, tony or brad can do to speed up the next album.

what i don't understand is this: in his most recent post, arion didn't tell us anything new. he told us that a) this new tidbit with stephan isn't relevant to third eye blind (which we already told you) and is no big deal and b) they're working on the new album (which we already knew). so why are people breathing sighs of relief? my point is: there are people on here who know what they're talking about. their information should be sufficient because it almost always comes directly from a member of the band.

as for adam, in terms of this site, he's vastly more important than me. i meant no disrespect by not including him in that brief list. it wasn't meant to be an all-inclusive list. i'm sure he knows what's going on, but usually it's someone else who offers news information.

[Adam]

No, really, I have no idea what's going on. But then I suppose it also depends on what you'd call "news."

I regret this thread now, that's what I get when I post stuff, I'll leave it to you guys now ;)

[Dirk]

then why are you still here? everyone here obviously still has some patience left. there is absolutely nothing we can do to speed up the next album. hell, there is nothing arion, tony or brad can do to speed up the next album.

what i don't understand is this: in his most recent post, arion didn't tell us anything new. he told us that a) this new tidbit with stephan isn't relevant to third eye blind (which we already told you) and is no big deal and b) they're working on the new album (which we already knew). so why are people breathing sighs of relief? my point is: there are people on here who know what they're talking about. their information should be sufficient because it almost always comes directly from a member of the band.

So sorry, your royal honor.

my point is: it's always gonna sound a little better coming from Arion than you, even if your info is second hand from the man himself. No offesne, of course, it's just how it is. Calm thyself.

[crimson~melody]

then why are you still here?
Because I still fucking like this band. All of us do. But patience runs out and sometimes faith needs to be restored, like by Arion posting.
I can let this upset me if I'd like. You can't change that, don't even try.

[24]

bliss .. give it a break, man. ;)

Some people's strings are turned too tight around here, but running over and twisting them looser isn't gonna help anything.

The best thing to do is to laugh, and be glad some people really do love the band *that* much. If I was Arion, I'd be pumped that so many people are still dying for the band to stay togeather and keep putting out quality music!

[Padrino]

as for adam, in terms of this site, he's vastly more important than me. i meant no disrespect by not including him in that brief list. it wasn't meant to be an all-inclusive list. i'm sure he knows what's going on, but usually it's someone else who offers news information.I know I'm a bit out of the loop recently, but what inside information/connections or exclusive insight do you ever get/have?

[heavy rhythm]

oh trust me, he gets inside information. i got your back chris, even if it doesn't count for much, i got your back. :) chris just isn't one to flaunt his "connections", if thats what you want to call it.

[Brian]

oh trust me, he gets inside information. i got your back chris, even if it doesn't count for much, i got your back. :) chris just isn't one to flaunt his "connections", if thats what you want to call it.
Yes, he does have connections, and until recently he liked to just keep quiet about them.

Which is why throughout this thread, and others, I've told folks to listen to what he has to say.

[Maybe]

stevie wonder - i believe when i fall in love with you it will be foreverthat is such an awesome song.

[Brian]

that is such an awesome song.
:yes:

Right below Stevie's "My Cherie Amour" for the utterly most beautiful, romantic and gorgeous song ever.

La La La La La La

My cherie amour, lovely as a summer day...

My cherie amour, distant as the milky way...

Best.

Melody.

Ever.

[crimson~melody]

The dude who sang it on American Idol killed it, imo.

[Brian]

The dude who sang it on American Idol killed it, imo.
If you can let some tool on american idol ruin one of the most beautiful melodies and love songs ever, then you never realized how perfect the song was before to begin with, and it says more about you than the song.

:p

[crimson~melody]

:flag:

[3SeJbfan]

Brian, you are just filled with good comebacks as of late aren't you? ;)

[The Destroyer]

summers days are pretty lovely

[blisstheabyss]

I know I'm a bit out of the loop recently, but what inside
information/connections or exclusive insight do you ever get/have?

give me a break. this is classically arrogant of you to think that because you don't know about it must mean that it's not true. i'm not here to prove anything about this - if i wanted people/you to know, i would have told you.

thanks maria and brian. this isn't really where i wanted this to go, but, y'know. oh well.

[gchild320]

Um, you kinda sorta left out a really important person in this list. So much more important than yourself.

But he's a Pillar of the community.

[Padrino]

give me a break. this is classically arrogant of you to think that because you don't know about it must mean that it's not true. i'm not here to prove anything about this - if i wanted people/you to know, i would have told you.

thanks maria and brian. this isn't really where i wanted this to go, but, y'know. oh well.I was asking a question b/c I don't remember you ever providing exclusive info to the board. You brought up the point in your typical snobby fashion to the other person, and I asked about it. Sorry, I'm not clairvoyant, tool.

[Iceman]

This isn't directed at anyone personally on this site, this is just a general statement, so if ya wanna get your panties all twisted because of it, be my guest, but this isn't about you.

Basically, I think the whole idea of people having "exclusive" info or whatever you wanna call it, be it unreleased songs, updated news, or just anything to do with the band and not sharing it is just retarded. I understand sometimes certain info cannot be disclosed because of legal issues, but c'mon, this is the internet where 3eb fans come to get their fill of the band. It's not like we are dealing with top secret intelligence information or something.

I know for a fact there are people that have certain songs or info that is not being shared with everyone. I know it is their decision to do what they may with it, but honestly, I find it quite lame when people act all secretive and just have an air of pretentiousness about themselves because they are just sooooo damn important to have info that others don't. It seems that some people just completely get off to the fact that they have more info than others, and somehow that makes them better or more important 3eb fans.

I understand that there are some people that put more work into supporting 3eb than others and that's why they get more info, and that is fine, that's not what I'm talking about. Like I said earlier, this is not about pointing fingers at specific people. It's a general idea of making anything and everything 3eb completely accessible to all fans, because that's why we're all here, right? To get as much of 3eb as we can get our hands on.

Share the love

Peace

[Brian]

This isn't directed at anyone personally on this site, this is just a general statement, so if ya wanna get your panties all twisted because of it, be my guest, but this isn't about you.

Basically, I think the whole idea of people having "exclusive" info or whatever you wanna call it, be it unreleased songs, updated news, or just anything to do with the band and not sharing it is just retarded. I understand sometimes certain info cannot be disclosed because of legal issues, but c'mon, this is the internet where 3eb fans come to get their fill of the band. It's not like we are dealing with top secret intelligence information or something.

I know for a fact there are people that have certain songs or info that is not being shared with everyone. I know it is their decision to do what they may with it, but honestly, I find it quite lame when people act all secretive and just have an air of pretentiousness about themselves because they are just sooooo damn important to have info that others don't. It seems that some people just completely get off to the fact that they have more info than others, and somehow that makes them better or more important 3eb fans.

I understand that there are some people that put more work into supporting 3eb than others and that's why they get more info, and that is fine, that's not what I'm talking about. Like I said earlier, this is not about pointing fingers at specific people. It's a general idea of making anything and everything 3eb completely accessible to all fans, because that's why we're all here, right? To get as much of 3eb as we can get our hands on.

Share the love

Peace
A bit off topic and redundant, but :thup: nonetheless.

[Adam]

Wow, I think you took that pretty well Brian ;)

[Brian]

Wow, I think you took that pretty well Brian ;)
Well, considering I'm not guilty of any of the above offenses.

You and I share stuff as soon as we can. We don't hold shit so that we can feel above others.

Thought there is someone here who does.

His name rhymes with dickhead.

[3SeJbfan]

His name rhymes with dickhead.

does it also rhyme with prickhead? ;)

[Adam]

Well, considering I'm not guilty of any of the above offenses.

You and I share stuff as soon as we can. We don't hold shit so that we can feel above others.

Thought there is someone here who does.

His name rhymes with dickhead.Um, it was a joke, wasn't seriously pointing fingers or implying anything.

Everyone's wound so tight recently, sheesh.

[Jason]

Thought there is someone here who does.

His name rhymes with dickhead.

Good one! :thup:

[Brian]

Um, it was a joke, wasn't seriously pointing fingers or implying anything.

Everyone's wound so tight recently, sheesh.
I know you were just kidding around.

;)

I just wanted to clarify for anyone else.

GOSH!

[blisstheabyss]

i don't think anyone should really point fingers - that wasn't iceman's intent and he was very clear about that. i'd rather this not be a public conversation (i PMed iceman) because everyone's situation is a little different.

i will say that if someone has information, they aren't under any obligation to tell anyone (and often, information is given in confidence).

i assume it's cokehead we're talking about. he doesn't run a website, so if he acquires information, it's usually under the assumption that it's between him and whoever is giving it to him. if i'm talking to any random friend and i tell them something about my life or my job and he suddenly runs to a message board and discloses that information, i'd be a little annoyed. just something to think about.

[Brian]

i assume it's cokehead we're talking about. he doesn't run a website, so if he acquires information, it's usually under the assumption that it's between him and whoever is giving it to him. if i'm talking to any random friend and i tell them something about my life or my job and he suddenly runs to a message board and discloses that information, i'd be a little annoyed. just something to think about.
Look, I really didn't want to get into it.

If the situation was truly as you described it, that would be one thing.

But Arin likes to boast, taunt, and do things such as list EP songs he has but others do not in the "now playing" feature.

Basically, the epitome of being a dick and shoving things in peoples faces.

Have I had songs long before they were released to everyone that I couldn't share for a certain period of time due to trust and other issues? Sure. But I wasn't taunting others with that information and making it clear that I had songs that others desperately wanted to hear but weren't privvy to.

And as far as posting information, I push my sources to allow me to reveal as much as possible, so much so that I often have to delete things from my news reports after they've read it, as I've gone farther than they wanted me to.

Bottom line on my (one of many) problem(s) with Arin - if you have something you can't share, shut the fuck up about it and keep it to yourself. And if you do reveal you have it so that you can share information but can't share the song, don't be a fucking asshole and constantly taunt others with what you have.

[Adam]

So yeah, how bout that publishing deal then...?

[PUTthePASTaway]

So yeah, how bout that publishing deal then...?

This is the publishing deal thread?

;)

[jenniferr]

i assume it's cokehead we're talking about. he doesn't run a website, so if he acquires information, it's usually under the assumption that it's between him and whoever is giving it to him. if i'm talking to any random friend and i tell them something about my life or my job and he suddenly runs to a message board and discloses that information, i'd be a little annoyed. just something to think about.

i agree 100%... but i got the impression he was talking about like having random/rare/unreleased music perhaps, not necessarily info. that's the vibe i got.

like imagine if Adam wasn't gracious enough to share the ep instrumentals once he got them randomly e-mailed to him... i know i wouldn't be the only one who would that's totally lame. granted, we wouldn't know about the songs in that case but imagine if a few fellow fans found out that he had them and wasn't sharing. he doesn't HAVE to, no shit. but that defeats the purpose of our closely knit communities we have going here as 3eb fans. the reason we're all here is to connect, discuss, and share with other fans... so how are those things supposed to work and function effectively if a select few (i have no idea, maybe just one or two) keep things to their self and don't reciprocate what we all do here for eachother on a daily basis. 3eb fans have a great community going, a great "system", because most people here are so generous and thoughtful with all the info/and or media they come across.. thats what keeps this "system" running so smooth (thanks also to the great engineering of adam and brian ect... i love this metaphor).

but it won't work if people stop sharing... it would suck to know that one or two people are keeping things here from running as well as they have for quite a few years now. it's a cycle of give and take, ya gotta share the love people.

[/rant]

peace and :heart:


edit: just read brian's post and it's absolutely understandable as far as legal/trust issues go.. you have responsibilites here that we don't, with that comes privileged info/ect that you can't always share right away... i was saying in general, not directed towards anyone. especially not people with major responsibilites to the band, but mostly us fans here.

[cokehead1138]

But Arin likes to boast, taunt, and do things such as list EP songs he has but others do not in the "now playing" feature.

Bottom line on my (one of many) problem(s) with Arin - if you have something you can't share, shut the fuck up about it and keep it to yourself. And if you do reveal you have it so that you can share information but can't share the song, don't be a fucking asshole and constantly taunt others with what you have.

Hmmmmm, interesting. :rolleyes: Especially since I don't have the EP. And oh, god forbid that someone put something they don't have in the "now playing" thing. Shit could spin someones world sideways now that you point it out. I want the EP/demos as much as anyone here. Give it a rest already man.

EDIT: And oh, for the record, "dickhead" does not rhyme with "cokehead." :sleep:

[Brian]

Hmmmmm, interesting. :rolleyes: Especially since I don't have the EP. And oh, god forbid that someone put something they don't have in the "now playing" thing. Shit could spin someones world sideways now that you point it out. I want the EP/demos as much as anyone here. Give it a rest already man.
You're a fucking liar. You should be the one giving it a rest.

A certain track didn't originate from you then, right? It materialized out of nowhere.

End of story.

Back on topic.

[Brian]

Hmmmmm, interesting. :rolleyes: Especially since I don't have the EP. And oh, god forbid that someone put something they don't have in the "now playing" thing. Shit could spin someones world sideways now that you point it out. I want the EP/demos as much as anyone here. Give it a rest already man.

EDIT: And oh, for the record, "dickhead" does not rhyme with "cokehead." :sleep:
For the record, you can go away for a day or two so I don't have to look at your shit.

[silas]

Calm down cowpoke, this one's all on you. Arin isn't doing anything wrong.

[Brian]

Calm down cowpoke, this one's all on you. Arin isn't doing anything wrong.
Guess what? I don't care, and it doesn't concern you, so don't get invovled.

[Jason]

Calm down cowpoke, this one's all on you. Arin isn't doing anything wrong.

Lying is something wrong, so I gotta go with Brian here!

[Dirk]

So can people make a lot of money from publishing deals?

[chago04]

Lying is something wrong, so I gotta go with Brian here!
Who here hasnt joked about having a track no one else does?

[Brian]

Who here hasnt joked about having a track no one else does?
There's a pretty big difference between what you're referencing and this situation

Regardless, I don't this thread is going anywhere.