George W says...

[Brian]

"You know I could run for governor but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that's not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office."

George W. Bush
1989

[gchild320]

I don't really even dislike Bush...it just hasn't EVER been this easy to make fun of a political figure, let alone a president.


...besides Ahhnold.

[Brian]

"Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children is sometimes until we get an objective analysis."
George W. Bush, CNBC, April 15, 2000

[chago04]

"If you you don't believe Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn't vote for me." - John Kerry, January 31, 2003

"I don't want the Democrats to nominate me because I'm a charter member of one of the most selective but fastest growing sports clubs in the world: the NASCAR fans of Massachusetts." - John Kerry

One evening while he was campaigning for the Senate in North Carolina, Edwards was faced with a choice of several events he might attend. An advance man suggested, 'Maybe we ought to go to the reception for Leah Rabin.' Edwards responded, 'Who's she?' 'Yitzhak Rabin's widow,' replied the aide. 'Who was he?' asked Edwards.

“I’m an internationalist. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.” - John Kerry February 18th, 1970

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - John F. Kerry

"President Clinton was often known as the first black president. I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second" - John F. Kerry

"We do not need to divide America over who served and how. I have personally always believed that many served in many different ways. Someone who was deeply against the war in 1969 or 1970 may well have served their country with equal passion and patriotism by opposing the war as by fighting in it." - John F. Kerry

"I voted for the Helms-Burton legislation to be tough on companies that deal with (Castro)" -- John Kerry lies to a group of Cuban voters (he voted against it) who strongly support Helms-Burton on March 14, 2004

"There is no terrorist threat in this country. This is a lie. This is the biggest lie we've been told." Michael Moore (I ask him to tell that to the thousands of people who lost a loved one just over 3 years ago...)

More later.

[Brian]

What does Michael Moore have to do with this?

Don't you see the title of the thread? "George W says..."

Not anyone you see fit.

Besides, it's apparently never gonna get through your thick moronic skull that Kerry never doubted Saddam was a threat. In fact, just an hour or so ago I saw video footage of Kerry on PBS during sessions of Congress in July 0f 2002 right before he voted along with everyone else to give the president authority to use force in Iraq, and he CLEARLY and EERILY, considering what has happened, cautioned that we should only engage in war after all possible inspections had failed and that if we did not we could end up causing "even more danger to the United States and increase the recruitment and numbers of Al Queda and other terrorist groups."

But hey, he voted for the war, and that's all you blind assholes will let yourselves see.



:lol:
John Stewart just said while interviewing the Bush Campaign chief or something or other and US governer.
"Iraq, can't you just pretend we didn't do that?"

[Padrino]

But hey, he voted for the war, and that's all you blind assholes will let yourselves see.Buuuuut Brian, that's the way I've been conditioned to think, that every problem, be it multi-prong global issues or the reasons behind voting for or against a 10-page Congressional bill, can be broken down into oversimplified catchphrases or out-of-context partial quotes.

It makes it sooooo much easier for me to make up my mind. I cannot be forced to think for myself. ;)

[/sarcasm]

[chago04]

As promised, Moore:

If youre gonna criticize Bush, I'm gonna critisize his critics.

[gchild320]

Michael Moore is a waste of space...but also a complete waste of space that has nothing to do with the election.

[Brian]

If youre gonna criticize Bush, I'm gonna critisize his critics.
That's fucking ridiculous and has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Start your own goddamn thread if you want to change the topic.

I'm editing your post.

[Brian]

"I know that the human being and the fish can coexist peacefully."

- George W. Bush
September 29, 2000 in Michigan

[APlaneTookOff]

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all. I want you all to know --

Q Can't hear you.

THE PRESIDENT: I can't talk any louder. (Laughter.)

I want you all to know that America today -- that America today is on bended knee in prayer for the people whose lives were lost here, for the workers who work here, for the families who mourn. This nation stands with the good people of New York City, and New Jersey and Connecticut, as we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens.

Q I can't hear you.

THE PRESIDENT: I can hear you. I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. (Applause.)

[Brian]

Ahh, if only he had continued to have moments like that.

But hey, it only takes a horrific and unparalled terrorist attack.

[APlaneTookOff]

Ahh, if only he had continued to have moments like that.

But hey, it only takes a horrific and unparalled terrorist attack.

good attitude. he had many moments like that. you just weren't paying any attention.

all that gets play is something that can be transcribed into a funny internet flash animation. good times we're living in, ey?

[Brian]

good attitude. he had many moments like that. you just weren't paying any attention.

Uhh, no. The reason I don't have a favorable opinion of him now as our presiden is because I have been paying attention.

I didn't have any reason to dislike him. His actions have caused that.

I remember watching that moment when it happened and I thought it was awesome and I supported him completely since we were at war and he was our leader.

I feel his actions since then show more of who he really is than a feel good speech made when the entire country was unified.

Is our country still unified?

And why?

[chago04]

That's fucking ridiculous and has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Start your own goddamn thread if you want to change the topic.

I'm editing your post.
You are ridiculous. How can it not have anything to do with the fucking topic? Youre criticising President Bush, so why should I not be able to criticise those who criticise him like you are. You are a fucking joke Brian. A fucken hypocritical joke.

[Brian]

You are ridiculous. How can it not have anything to do with the fucking topic? Youre criticising President Bush, so why should I not be able to criticise those who criticise him like you are. You are a fucking joke Brian. A fucken hypocritical joke.
Posting his own quotes is criticising him?

I'll stand by the fact that, yeah, what you did had NOTHING to do with the topic.

Posting what APlaneTookOff did was very much on topic, and a great way to get your point across.

[Hooby]

What does Michael Moore have to do with this?

Don't you see the title of the thread? "George W says..."

Not anyone you see fit.

Agreed.

Chago, make your own damn thread, and please, stop assuming that just because you're anti-bush that you're pro-kerry

[Yusuf]

"Let me put it to you this way, I am not a revengeful person."
- Interview with Time magazine, December 25, 2000

"And there's no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will fail."
- Washington, D.C., October 4, 2001

"I think it's time for the presdident - to allow the president to finish his term, and let him move on and enjoy life and become an active participant in the American system."
- On Bill Clinton; Austin, Texas, January 8, 2001

"We both use Colgate toothpaste."
- On his relationship with Tony Blair; Camp David, Maryland, February 23, 2001

"First, we would not accept a treaty that would not have been ratified, nor a treaty that I thought made sense for the country."
- On the Kyoto accord in an interview with The Washington Post, April 24, 2001

"I understand that the unrest in the Middle East creates unrest throughout the region."
- Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

"My administration has been calling upon all the leaders in the - in the Middle East to do everything they can to stop the violence, to tell the different parties involved that peace will never happen."
- Crawford, Texas, August 13, 2001

"Do you have blacks, too?"
- To Brazilian president Fernando Cardosa, May 19, 2002

"They didn't think we were a nation that could conceivably sacrifice for something greater than our self; that we were soft, that we were so self-absorbed and so materialistic that we wouldn't defend anything we believed in. My, were they wrong. They were just reading the wrong magazine, or watching the wrong Springer show."
- Washington, D.C., March 12, 2001

"I have said that the sanction regime is like Swiss cheese - that meant that they weren't very effective."
- Washington, D.C., February 22, 2001

"I believe the results of focusing our attention and energy on teaching children to read and having an education system that's responsive to the child and to the parents, as opposed to mired in a system that refuses to change, will make America what we want it to be - a literate country and a hopefuller country."
- Washington, D.C., January 11, 2001

"It's about past seven in the evening here so we're actually in different time lines."
- Congratulating newly elected Phillipine president, Washington, D.C., January 2001

"But if you've been laid off of work, you're 100 percent unemployed, and I worry about it."
- Green Bay, Wisconsin, September 3, 2001

"One of the interesting initiatives we've taken in Washington, D.C., is we've got these vampire-busting devices. A vampure is a - a cell deal you can plug in the wall to charge your cell phone."
- Denver, Colorado, August 14, 2001

[blisstheabyss]

It's really easy to find silly quotes from people in the press. Especially the president, who is under more intense media scrutiny than anyone else in the public eye. Every single thing he says will be disected, interpreted, misinterpreted, etc. We could find just as many silly comments from any modern president. We all know Bush isn't the best public speaker. So what? That does not make him stupid; it just makes him a bad public speaker.

I find the Kerry quotes far more compelling because he is actually saying things that contradict his previous statements. Does Kerry believe Saddam had nuclear weapons? Yes or no? He's said both many times. Did Kerry think that Saddam posed a threat? Yes or no? He's said both many times. He says that he would have handled the war differently, but he would have had the same information that Bush had. Our allies would have had the same information that Bush had. It's VERY presumptuous to assume that he could have brought in more allies than Bush (he definitely wouldn't have got France). Everything that is going on right now, on both sides, is political positioning and almost none of it can be taken at face value. Look at the voting records. Look at their past decisions. With that information, I can't vote for Kerry. I'm not nuts about Bush, but at least I feel like I can believe him.

[The Flicker Fade]

"I know that the human being and the fish can coexist peacefully."

- George W. Bush
September 29, 2000 in Michigan

OR CAN THEY?!!!!! :wet:



Does every thread have to be political, guys? I'm finding this one pretty humorous. :lol:

[David Charles]

I was watching some news channel one day, forget which one and they were showing live coverage of a little league game on the White House lawn and George Bush,while President, came out to speak and said "On behalf of the President...." :D

[chago04]

Here's a brand new one from John Edwards:
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." - Edwards, October 11, 2004

Brian, I will start a new thread for each person I was going to post quotes from, but we both know youll try to use that to ban me when I have 20 threads including Michael Moore, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Billary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Barack Obama, Bob Graham, (my favorite) Howard Dean, and countless other Liberals. So go back to takin acid and jackin off.

[APlaneTookOff]

I remember watching that moment when it happened and I thought it was awesome and I supported him completely since we were at war and he was our leader.

I feel his actions since then show more of who he really is than a feel good speech made when the entire country was unified.

Is our country still unified?

And why?

Fair enough. I agree though, his actions sincethen show more of who he is - moreso than a bunch of idiotic comments he made, or a photo of a turkey going down on him. It's just that I support those actions, and a lot of people don't.

Heh, and no we're not unified, we've never really been. And a perfect example would be how you feel about all this, and how I feel about all this. And the numbers during the 2000 election, and the 2004 election - those're good indications.

[lovethoseguys]

We all know Bush isn't the best public speaker. So what? That does not make him stupid; it just makes him a bad public speaker.


i don't know, regardless of how he is as a public speaker, some of those quotes seem pretty ignorant to me.

[The Flicker Fade]

"We will not tire, we will not falter, we will not waiver, we will not fail."
- W.
Speech given in October 2001 adressing 9/11, and again during the January 2002 State of the Union.

"It's hard work."
- W.
2,487,102x during first 2004 Presidential debate.

"I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duuuuuuutttttyyyyyyyyy!"
- Senator John Kerry
Some rally or something

"BRAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNSSSS!!!"
- Jon Stuart
Response to above statement by Kerry.



By the way, has everyone seen this?

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=cnndice.mpg


:wet: :wet: :wet:

[Padrino]

Art,
it's spelled Jon "Stewart", not "Stuart". ;)

[Yusuf]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=cnndice.mpg :wet: :wet: :wet:

That's great.

[The Flicker Fade]

Art,
it's spelled Jon "Stewart", not "Stuart". ;)

Fuck me, that was stupid. :lol:

[Brian]

Here's a brand new one from John Edwards:
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." - Edwards, October 11, 2004

Brian, I will start a new thread for each person I was going to post quotes from, but we both know youll try to use that to ban me when I have 20 threads including Michael Moore, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Billary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Barack Obama, Bob Graham, (my favorite) Howard Dean, and countless other Liberals. So go back to takin acid and jackin off.
BANNED for a week.

Bye Bye.

Ok, sorry, I had to go ban that piece of shit right away. Here's why, for anyone who needs an answer. Now, besides the fact that this fuck can't engage in civil conversation in this thread like Art and Bob have, and he continues to be insistent about posting off topic shit that has nothing to do with the thread, which for the most part was supposed to just be for good fun and humor, as Art was able to realize and point out....I was gonna leave it at that and just ignore him until he made a tastless and pathetic personal attack on myself.

(However....who doesn't jerk off? And why am I supposed to be an insulted that I've tripped a few times? Gives a fucking unreal perspective on the world. Timothy Leary was honestly on to something when he thought it led to a better understanding. I can say that from my experience. I'm guessing you can't.)

In addition to the MANY other hostile, disgusting and tactless remarks he's made that have seriously offended myself and others over the last few weeks, this ban is seriously overdue and extremely tame.

[APlaneTookOff]

That video was just blank for me, 51 seconds of blankness. :confused:

[The Flicker Fade]

Hmm, try downloading divx or something. It's worth it. It's Andrew Dice Clay cursing out CNN on live television. Rather strongly. :lol:

[David Charles]

Haha what an ass. I feel bad for that newscaster, if only because i'm a journalism person. Oh well, i'm surprised the FCC didn't fine CNN 5 million dollars for that.

[The Flicker Fade]

CNN stands for Cable News Network. The FCC has no power over them.

[Brian]

What the hell did they expect to happen? They invited that blunder on themselves.

Andrew Dice Clay on CNN? I'm sure he was just as surprised they asked him to come on.

[Hooby]

It's really easy to find silly quotes from people in the press. Especially the president, who is under more intense media scrutiny than anyone else in the public eye. Every single thing he says will be disected, interpreted, misinterpreted, etc. We could find just as many silly comments from any modern president. We all know Bush isn't the best public speaker. So what? That does not make him stupid; it just makes him a bad public speaker.

Really? I tend to equate the two in a general sense.....most people that aren't good public speakers tend not to be amazingly smart either.....and this is the fucking PRESIDENT for Christ's sake, if anyone in this world has to be a good public speaker its Bush....."SO WHAT?!?!" are you kidding me? And I don't remember this many quotes of this magnitude of stupidity coming out on a normal basis during the tenure of Clinton or Senior Bush.

If you honestly believe that public speaking has no real bearing on the office of the President (which "so what?" implies implicitly), or that Senior Bush and Bill Clinton said this much stupid shit on a normal basis, you have a veil over your eyes the size of Montana.

[David Charles]

I was more just ripping the FCC....guess I need to use the /sarcasm thing. This indecency thing from the FCC is getting ridculous.

[GarryJJ]

George W. covers U2. (http://www.audiostreet.net/artists/006/407/song_sunday_bloody_sunday.html)

[blisstheabyss]

Really? I tend to equate the two in a general sense.....most people that aren't good public speakers tend not to be amazingly smart either.....and this is the fucking PRESIDENT for Christ's sake, if anyone in this world has to be a good public speaker its Bush....."SO WHAT?!?!" are you kidding me? And I don't remember this many quotes of this magnitude of stupidity coming out on a normal basis during the tenure of Clinton or Senior Bush.

If you honestly believe that public speaking has no real bearing on the office of the President (which "so what?" implies implicitly), or that Senior Bush and Bill Clinton said this much stupid shit on a normal basis, you have a veil over your eyes the size of Montana.

listen hoobastank, there were plenty of ridiculous comments from clinton and bush senior. ill find them for you sometime. mistakes, fumbling of words, etc. being a good public speaker doesnt necessarily make you a smart person; for instance, its possible that you could be a great public speaker, but youre clearly a moron. the opposite could also be true. lots of smart people are well spoken, lots of well spoken people are smart. but all of these implications of bush being an idiot is pretty tiresome. if gore couldnt beat an idiot, what does that say about gore? if kerry doesnt beat an idiot, what does that say about kerry?

[Padrino]

but all of these implications of bush being an idiot is pretty tiresome. In relation to past U.S. Presidents, the implication of Bush being an idiot is without a doubt true.

We've had this discussion before and I'm not going to reproduce my long posts on the subject. Use the search function.


if gore couldnt beat an idiot, what does that say about gore? Umm... that while considering any good points he may have, it comes down to the fact he's a pretty sucky politician. I thought that well before he lost in 2000.


if kerry doesnt beat an idiot, what does that say about kerry?It says it's a sad example of the Democratic party, that given the rampant discourse in America and the highly questionable decisions Bush has made the past 2 years, the Democratic party wasn't able to push forth a better candidate.


I've said all these things many times before.

[Maybe]

I think we should have a mass exodus to the moon and start over from scratch. New laws, etc, etc, all automated and electronic. No more paper. :yes:

[David Charles]

listen hoobastank, there were plenty of ridiculous comments from clinton and bush senior. ill find them for you sometime. mistakes, fumbling of words, etc. being a good public speaker doesnt necessarily make you a smart person; for instance, its possible that you could be a great public speaker, but youre clearly a moron. the opposite could also be true. lots of smart people are well spoken, lots of well spoken people are smart. but all of these implications of bush being an idiot is pretty tiresome. if gore couldnt beat an idiot, what does that say about gore? if kerry doesnt beat an idiot, what does that say about kerry?


Clinton may have some bad quotes but he is still a good public speaker and can have an effect on people that way. He may have a bad taste in women but he can get many better looking women to sleep with him if he wants to but he has whatever it is that women respond to. Confidence maybe? Not sure but is a hell of a better speaker than Bush and definitely not as much of an idiot.

[Hooby]

listen hoobastank, there were plenty of ridiculous comments from clinton and bush senior. ill find them for you sometime. mistakes, fumbling of words, etc.

www.dubyaspeak.com

find the same or near the same amount of quotes in the library of that site, then we can start talking.


being a good public speaker doesnt necessarily make you a smart person; for instance, its possible that you could be a great public speaker, but youre clearly a moron. the opposite could also be true. lots of smart people are well spoken, lots of well spoken people are smart.

I said most, not all.......and nowhere did I say "could not"


but all of these implications of bush being an idiot is pretty tiresome. if gore couldnt beat an idiot, what does that say about gore? if kerry doesnt beat an idiot, what does that say about kerry

Although I think they can debate/speak much more eloquently than Bush on any given day (which is NOT much of a task mind you), I think its as Pad said, an indicator of the sad state of affairs in the Democratic party, not to mention and indicator of the sad state of affairs in the country itself, where the country can A) let these jokes for Democrats run B) they couldn't walk all over Bush C) most importantly, the American people couldn't see how horrible Bush is as a person, speaker, candidate.

Forgive the grammar, I just woke-up and I'm focusing on writing a paper.

[blisstheabyss]

Clinton may have some bad quotes but he is still a good public speaker and can have an effect on people that way. He may have a bad taste in women but he can get many better looking women to sleep with him if he wants to but he has whatever it is that women respond to. Confidence maybe? Not sure but is a hell of a better speaker than Bush and definitely not as much of an idiot.

Clinton is a great public speaker. I don't know why you brought up his ability to woo women. What does that have to do with him as a politician?! What does that have to do with his intelligence (which I've never questioned; maybe his decision making...)?! What are you talking about? What does an ability to impress girls have to do with politics?

[blisstheabyss]

Although I think they can debate/speak much more eloquently than Bush on any given day (which is NOT much of a task mind you), I think its as Pad said, an indicator of the sad state of affairs in the Democratic party, not to mention and indicator of the sad state of affairs in the country itself, where the country can A) let these jokes for Democrats run B) they couldn't walk all over Bush C) most importantly, the American people couldn't see how horrible Bush is as a person, speaker, candidate.


Of course they can debate/speak more eloquently than Bush. I get nervous when he starts talking - not because he's dumb, but because he's not a great public speaker. I agree with the points he's conveying, though sometimes he could probably convey them a little more eloquently.

I really want to know why you think Bush is a "horrible person". Explain yourself.

[Hooby]

I really want to know why you think Bush is a "horrible person". Explain yourself.

I think its highly unecessary to re-type the points I've conveyed in a bevy of threads throughout this forum.

[blisstheabyss]

I think its highly unecessary to re-type the points I've conveyed in a bevy of threads throughout this forum.

come on, hoobastank. i want to know what makes bush a "horrible person". being a bad public speaker doesnt make someone a horrible person. being dumb doesnt make someone a horrible person. being a republican doesn't (reasonably) make someone a horrible person. being a bad president doesn't make someone a horrible person. i want examples of why he is a bad person. if you refuse to do it, i'll just assume you dont have examples.

[Padrino]

come on, hoobastank. i want to know what makes bush a "horrible person". being a bad public speaker doesnt make someone a horrible person. being dumb doesnt make someone a horrible person. being a republican doesn't (reasonably) make someone a horrible person. being a bad president doesn't make someone a horrible person. i want examples of why he is a bad person. if you refuse to do it, i'll just assume you dont have examples.Dude,
I am not Hooby's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination (he'll tell you), but he has previously listed during his history here, several reasons of why he holds this belief. I(n fact, there have been numerous times he has done this in the past year. Use the search function. I don't blame him that he doesn't feel like retyping it.

[The Flicker Fade]

It's actually something he's discussed at length many, many times- sometimes even multiple times with the same person. His reasoning is personal values, and as such cannot be faulted.